Thursday, June 07, 2007

The Narrow Mind on Frank Beckwith's Switch to Roman Catholicism

I absolutely love Gene Cook's radio show "The Narrow Mind" it is clever and genuinely informative. Gene like myself holds to a presuppositional apologetic approach. What I mainly like about the show is the bluntness, Gene is not afraid to say the things that people in our postmodern limp wristed culture don't care for. Anyway the main point is to give a link to a show recently done with Matt Slick the director of the CARM apologetics web page on the Francis Beckwith situation. Honestly it is not the best show I have heard from The Narrow Mind but since I have talked about this recently I thought I would give the link.



natamllc said...

Hey Bobby

Great that you are a father now!

Just finished listening to the pod cast. It was sound and sobering.

One thing that jumped out at me was the issue of paedo and credo baptism.

What is your stand on this ice clear subject?

Bob said...

Hey Michael, thanks I am very happy to be a father. As for the Baptism issue, I don't see it as something I will go to war over but as of right now I believe in a covenental view of paedo baptism. What really convinced me wasn't so much the analogies to Old Testement circumcision (although I would make that) but just the fact that I don't want to treat my children, who I am discipling, like they are outside of the covenent. A disciple should be baptised and since I am discipling them...

That's my thinking of why behind infant baptism in a nutshell.

natamllc said...

If it is not too freakie, I stand in both.

I have seen clear Salvation come upon a grown person, like the story of Philip in Acts 8.

We baptize infants here at G.O. too.

So either way, just like birth was not ours to accomplish, so rebirth is not ours to accomplish.

The story like Philips goes like this. I and Jim Durkin went to Nigeria to visit a King of a large, wealthy kingdom in the Delta region near Cameroon. They are rich with crude oil and other sellable commodities, rubber, fish, etc... .

Before we left the States we laid over in Washington D.C.. While there another King, of another kingdom in another West African country came to us and asked us to do him a favor.

We agreed to help him with something while in Nigeria.

He made arrangements to have a "sitting" Governor of one of the "states" of this nation, Togo, come and visit us in Nigeria at the other King's palace.

Well, the Governor came and we received him and his group who were with him. The "host" king gave them room and board while they stayed there so we could finish the task we were asked to do for the exiled king living in the Washington D.C. area.

During the evening dinner and after, it became clear to us that this Governor was not a Christian but because his "king" was, he wanted to "know" more about Christianity. We happily abliged him and from it he wanted to receive Christ as his "King". After praying with him administering absolution for his sins he immediately asked to be baptized!

It was well after 9 p.m. at night. Jim Durkin and I agreed to baptize him then and there.

We filled up a very large bath tub and the three of us got in and we administered baptism to him!

So, for whatever relevant reasons, God knows and God decides, this man's heart was opened and he requested that we baptize him just as Philip was requested likewise:

Act 8:36 And as they were going along the highway they came on some water. And the eunuch said, Behold, water! What prevents me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If you believe from all the heart, it is lawful. And answering he said, I believe Jesus Christ to be the Son of God.
Act 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still. And both went down into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

I do not suppose an unbelieving parent would even consider having their infant baptized. So it is not relevant to that question.

But to believers, yes, baptize the infant seeing they have not a clue as to how they came into the world nor a clue as to how they are to be reborn!

Only God does and to those He gives the revelation too.

How are your wife, my friend Lisa and the children these days?