Thursday, November 16, 2006

Secular Humanist Clergy Speak Out

From: WhirledNotDaley

The religious world is in an uproar over a recent statement given by a high ranking secular humanist clergyman. Former pop star, song writer and now an Arch Bishop in the Secular Humanist Congregational Assembly Elton John has recently said some very controversial things about the religious community. The controversial quote reads as follows:

"I think religion has always tried to turn hatred towards gay people. Religion promotes the hatred and spite against gays...From my point of view I would ban religion completely, even though there are some wonderful things about it... But the reality is that organized religion doesn't seem to work. It turns people into hateful lemmings and it's not really compassionate." (For fuller article click here)

The quote has received criticism from those on both sides of the fence, Arch Bishop John while attempting to enter a Humanist Assembly Meeting house was met by a barrage of "Faithful" protestors chanting:

"We're here
God's Feared
Get used to it"

The crowd had many doing vulgar acts such men embracing and even kissing Bibles, some were singing songs while others prayed. The Humanist Assembly which Bishop John was scheduled to speak had to be postponed as the "Faithful" crowds presence put a damper on an otherwise cheery assembly. This statement by Arch Bishop John comes just weeks after the controversial outburst delivered by Secular Humanist Assembly Deaconess O'Donnell which reads:

"Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here." (For link to whole article click here)

Many within the Assembly have distanced themselves from the above comments delivered by John and O'Donnell.

"Charles Darwin's ideas were so immense and deep it is almost insulting to him to take the 'Origin of the Species' literally. I simply can not hold to the narrow minded interpretation of the OOS, I mean who are we to say whether or not that first single celled organism just popped into existence or some God created it...we need to get back the heart of Secular Humanism and Darwin's message which is interspecies love and above all tolerance."
Said Terrance Hightower a secular humanist clergyman who wants to remain anonymous.

This has left many devout Secular's waiting for a formal statement from the Pope of the Secular Humanist Assembly Richard Dawkins, who in the past has said that Christians raising their children in the faith is synonymous with child abuse. Most expect the papal decree to side with the more "Fundamentalist" Secular Humanist camp which would give the official approval to the recent statements.

A pro-God Christians has responded to the statements by Bishop John and Deaconess O'Donnell stating:

"For a group of people who want to criticize us calling us intolerant bigots, they sure seem pretty intolerant of us. Am I crazy or am I the only one who sees a blatant double standard in all their Secular rhetoric? They want to make laws so that no one can speak against their lifestyle but they at the same time want to criticize and support banning the Christian lifestyle if they could!"

So says know nothing right wing reactionary fundamentalist radical narrow minded intolerant bigot Christian jerk face Clark Parker from Detroit Christian Church.

4 comments:

Dani said...

Great Post Bob! Very well written and to the point as usual.

Signed,

- Dani

(The uneducated right-wing, religious nutcase, insane measly housewife, hateful and intolerant or a judgmental bigoted idiot = AKA "Fundamental Christian")

I've been called way worse before - Plus I take it as a compliment!

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*I just want to say thanks for all of your great comments on my blog. These people are a trip, aren't they?

natamllc said...

I take my stand on the doctrine of Preeminence.

Col 1:11 May you be strengthened with all power, according to his glorious might, for all endurance and patience with joy,
Col 1:12 giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of the saints in light.
Col 1:13 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son,
Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

the doctrine:::>
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything he might be preeminent.

Let me quote Einar Billing translated by Conrad Bergendoff, from a booklet written in 1909.

The title of the booklet is "OUR CALLING".

Here is the warning that every Believer must submit too!

quote: "" THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS FOR US NO CULTURAL MESSIANIC REIGN--UNLESS WE DESCEND FROM JESUS' IDEA OF THE KINGDOM TO THAT OF THE JEWISH TEACHING--BUT ITS ESSENCE IS FELLOWSHIP WITH GOD. THEREFORE IN LUTHER'S FORGIVENESS OF SINS THERE IS VIRTUALLY THE IDEA OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD. WE CANNOT RECEIVE FORGIVENESS WITHOUT CONVICTION THAT AS IT IS OFFERED TO US, SO IT IS OFFERED TO ALL. WERE ANYONE EXCEPTED I SHOULD HAVE TO SAY TO MYSELF: "IT IS I". LUTHER'S THOUGHT IS JUST THIS, IN THE EXPOSITION OF THE 3rd ARTICLE: "even as He calls, gathers, enlightens, sanctifies the whole Christian Church on earth". THERE IS THE IDEA OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD!""

PREEMINENCE is of the Lord God Almighty.

Paul wrote this:

1 Cor. 6:9-11

1Co 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
1Co 6:10 nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
1Co 6:11 And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

PREEMINENCE is of the Lord.

As Billing noted, quoted above:
[[ WE CANNOT RECEIVE FORGIVENESS WITHOUT CONVICTION THAT AS IT IS OFFERED TO US, SO IT IS OFFERED TO ALL. WERE ANYONE EXCEPTED I SHOULD HAVE TO SAY TO MYSELF: "IT IS I".]]

I too have been washed and being washed daily, sanctified and being sanctified daily, justified and being justified daily.

God's PREEMINENCE is what is being rebelled against by much more than homosexuals and lesbians and adulterers and embezzlers and thiefs and robbers!!

You are for me or against me was the only qualifier Jesus put out to those lost in darkness and sinfulness.

I find my place here and rest in the Everlasting Arms of Grace, Mercy and Peace. Seeing what I am experiencing is for all, by His PREEMINENCE, I make the offer to all.

What the Gospel does after that is BEAR FRUIT.

Have you considered this as a fruit of the Gospel?

REJECTION OF THE OFFER? That too is a visible FRUIT and your article underscores how loudly and obvious that fruit is taking control of the minds of some poor sinner deserving both temporal and eternal punishments.

I accept the message of the Gospel. I want all mankind to accept it.

I want to heed Paul's admonition as well:

Eph 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
Eph 6:15 and, as shoes for your feet, having put on the readiness given by the gospel of peace.
Eph 6:16 In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one;
Eph 6:17 and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God,
Eph 6:18 praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints,
Eph 6:19 and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20 for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak.

michael

Bob said...

Hey thanks Dani, yeah some the guys are just unreasonable no-nothings regurgitating soundbites but there are a few who really seem to want to dialogue.

Hey Micheal good to hear from you again. Yeah you are right though the issue is that ALL outside of Christ are at war with God gay or not.

Christinewjc said...

The irony of your post is so funny yet also so revealing of their evil intentions, goals and objectives!

Deaconess O'Donnell...

Arch Bishop John...

Ha ha ha ha haaaaaa!!!!